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英文到底该咋整？ (中译英)
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http://www.oralpractice.com/topic/yuanchuang/76.html
I don't often use these three letters. This time, I have to use them. OMG!
OMG! I have fallen into a trap. How the heck you mainland Chinese folks can write so long and in elaborate details on these things? Anyway, it's done at last - a very long piece translated into English for English learners. You don't tell yourself that you have already mastered English if you cannot read the Chinese original and repeat in English i.e. almost like simultaneous interpretation as echoed by the same blogger in another blog entry I translated and posted here earlier today.
注册半个月来，嘿嘿，有不少朋友加我，找我练习。。
非常荣幸，也非常高兴。
朋友很多，讲到我口干舌燥，发现啊，大家都很热切的期望提高口语，可是就是苦于难于提高，仿佛没有办法和途径。
所有问题归结起来，就一个，这英文到底该杂整嘛？
我把我的建议写这儿，大家自己来看下，看了的就别问了，没看的就问下看了的。
After registering myself as a member here for half a month now, haha, quite a lot of friends come to me to seek me out to practice English. I am very honored, and also very pleased. There are so many friends that I talk to until my mouth dries up. What I discovered is that verybody is eager to raise their level of oral English skills. Yet it is hard to raise their standard, as if there are no solutions and no way out. Summing up all the problems, we come up with only one: At the end of the day, how can we learn English really?
首先，我觉得首先就是要端正下学习的态度。。中国经济发了疯，中国人也疯了，什么都想速成。市面上太多什么英文速成，几十天内张口说英语，几十天内又记多少词。。。其实大家都被误导了，学英文根本没这回事。学习没有捷径，学英文更是如此。学英文只能循序渐进，没有别的方法，不要听信什么狗屁专家学者说，尤其前面带“中国”头衔的。新东方也没有教你捷径，新东方也是在传达一种精神。
First of all, I feel that we have to sort out our learning attitude. The Chinese economy has gone haywire and so are the Chinese. Everything has to be accomplished at speed. There are too many crack English courses in the market. You can open your mouth to speak English after tens of days. You can remember so many words after tens of days..... We have all been misled. There isn't such a thing in learning English. There is no short-cut in learning things, much more in learning English. We can only approach it progressively and orderly. There isn't any other method. Listen not to these bullshit specialists especially those which wear titles with "China" in the front. New Oriental has never taught you short-cuts. New Oriental is also passing on to you a spirit in learning.
想想我们学汉语的，我们真正能够随意阅读和书写的时候，应该是在四年级后，大概八岁到十岁，不懂大家是不是，反正小弟是，也可能是小弟天性愚钝。也就是说我们在一个全中文环境中，也花了整整近十年才基本上掌握这门语言。想想您学英文，你学了整整几年了呢？ 注意”整整”。。一年？两年？三年？那你还急个什么呢？告诉你们，一个留学生在全英文环境中，过雅思托福出国后，要基本听懂课程，要花近一年时间，想要完全听懂广播之类的，要两到三年，想要彻底完全掌握英文，要生活好几年后，这还是比较努力的学生。想想在中国的您，你还急个屁啊，坐下来，慢慢做吧，急不来的。这是长年累月的过程。
Think of us who learn Chinese. The time that we can really able to read and write freely is when we have completed Primary 4, roughly between age 8 to 10. I don't know about you, but at least I am like that as I may be a little bit dumb. That is to say that under an all Chinese environment, it has taken us exactly 10 years to have a basic grasp of this Chinese language. Think of learning English yourself, how many FULL years have you been studying it? Note - FULL years. One year? Two years? Three years? Then why are you in a hurry? Let me tell you this. A student who is going abroad to study, after passing his TOEFL, will under an entirely English speaking environment takes almost one year to understand the course. In order to fully understand a broadcast, it takes him 2 to 3 years. In order to fully master English, he has to live there for a few years. This is student who is working rather hard. Think of you who is staying in China. What the heck are you in a rush for? Sit down and do it slowly. You can't just rush into it. It is an accumulating process that takes years.
第二，英文是门技能，不是知识，不是一本书，两本书就能搞定的。技能就是种感觉，感觉是什么？就是你痛了就要大喊“ouch”，你要打的见车就想大喊"taxi !" 这就跟饿了想吃饭一样，当饿了你不会这样想：那么根据生物学书上说，我们人类饿了需要进食。而是直接去开冰箱找吃的。这就叫做技能。有人喜欢把知识和技能分开说，觉得知识是知识，技能是技能，说英文不是知识，是技能，还老自认为这提法很新。其实技能是高于知识，向上的进一步升华。老师教我们的英文那就是知识，而如何将英文用出来，这就是种技能。英文最终我们需要用，就得必须将学到的语法词汇阅读统统用出来，条件反射似的用出来，一秒两秒的反射出来。这也是英文较之其他学科头痛的地方。一道数学题你可以花数小时将其答出来，而英文在用时，别人跟你讲话，你必须在一两秒内给予回应。时间太短，短到我们连想一下汉语的时间都没有。所以一般都要求必须直接从感觉到英文，脱口而出。我打你一拳，你就得立马叫“ouch”，不能先想下，“哎哟！”然后再叫“ouch！”。马云告诉那些学MBA的，你们要是将MBA学到的东西全都忘了，就算你毕业了。他不是真叫你忘了那些知识，而是让你将他们化为技能存于脑中，而不还是一条条的管理条例列于书中。英文的最终目标也一样，忘掉词汇语法句式，不经过大脑，张口就来。那你就成了。
2) English is a skill. It is not knowledge. It is not something you can pick up after studying a book or two. Skill is a sense. What's a sense? If you are hurt, you will shout out loudly "ouch". If you like to flag down a taxi, you will shout out loudly "TAXI"! It is like when we feel hungry, we will go for rice. You will think like this when you feel hungry: “Then according to biology books, when humankinds are hungry, they need food.” You will go straight to the ice box to look for something to eat. This is skills. Some people like to segregate knowledge and skills. They think knowledge is knowledge, and skills is skills. Saying that English is not knowledge but skills, they think they are saying something innovative. In actual fact, skills is higher than knowledge. We need to use English ultimately so we must put into use the grammar, vocabulary we have learnt like a reflex that takes a second or two. This is a headache with English compared with other subjects. A mathematics problem may take you a few hours to work out a solution. With English, you are talking to others that you have to respond in a second or two. The time is too short, so short that we don’t even have time to come up with the Chinese. Therefore, generally there is a requirement that you can sense the English directly and blurt it out. Should I punch you, you will shout out OUCH at once. You won’t think about it first. ALAS! Then you shout out OUCH afterwards. Mayun told those who had done an MBA course. First of all you must forget what you had learnt in your MBA course, even after you had graduated. He is not telling you to forget the knowledge, but to tell you to convert them to skills and store them in your brain, rather than having them as pieces of management rules listed in the books. The ultimate aim of English is the same. Forget all the words, grammar and sentence patterns. If you can speak as you open your mouth, without ever going back to your memory, you have made it.
第三，如果硬要说学英文的捷径的话，那么捷径就是比别人花更多的时间。俞敏洪来了次成都，他讲了很长段话，我就记得两个事，一，那天他剃了个大光头。二，他举了个生动的例子。他讲他在美国开车，如果你开六十码，别人开六十五码，（不好意思，具体小俞在美国开多少码，我记不清了，反正就这意思），一两小时后，你想再追他，你会发现很难很难。人跟人的差距也是这样慢慢拉大的。想学好英文，那么也就只有勤奋和坚持，每天多学，日积月累。
3) If we insist that there is a short-cut in learning English, then that short-cut can mean much more time spent in the end compared to others. Yu Min Hong was in Chengdu once. He delivered a long talk. I could only remember two points. 1) That day he shaved his head bald. 2) He cited a very lively example. He talked about driving a car in the US. If he was driving at 60 miles, others did it at 65 miles (I am sorry I don't know exactly how many miles it was. I can't remember clearly. Anyhow, that's what he meant.) After one or two hours, I wanted to catch up with him. Then you would find it really very very difficult. The distance between one person and another is also increasing slowly on the same principle. If you want to make it good learning English, there are nothing more than working hard and persistence. Learn more each day. It will accumulate as days and months pass by.
还要就是一定要循序渐进，就是一定要坚持每天学，有规律的学，这点非常重要，以上都是废话，对不起你白看了，但这点一定要记住，每周每天花一小时，比周末一天花七小时效果绝对要好。学英文一定要有规律，每天看每天学，不停的刺激大脑，刺激到你想什么都是英文词先蹦出来。每天坚持一两小时，效果绝对要好过你某一天心血来潮学上一整天。
What's more? We have to approach this gradually and orderly. We must persist and learn every day. Learn orderly. This is very important. Those are bullshit again. You wasted your time rading them again. But this point you must bear in mind. Spending an hour a day throughout the week is absolutely more effective than spending a total of 7 hours on a weekend. There must be regularity in learning English. Read and learn everyday. Keep your brain excited. Get it so excited that you will pop up an English word first whatever you are thinking about. Insist on doing this for one two hours a day. The effect is absolutely much better than spending the whole day studying whenever you feel like doing it.
那么坚持是件很困难的事，苏格拉底叫学生每天回家做下摆摆手，一年里也只有圣哲柏拉图每天能坚持下来，何况叫我们这些凡人每天看一个多小时英文。我们需要解决的办法，如果以上内容都是废话，那么下面的解决途径才是最重要的。对不起，你们又白看。
Then, persistence is a very difficult thing. Socrates told his students to shake their hands when they got home. In a year, only our saintly philosopher Plato was able to do this everyday consistently. What about asking us English learners to read English for more than an hour everyday. The solution we need (???) If the above is bullshit. Then the solution offered hereafter is the most important. I am sorry that you have wasted your effort again.
第四，如何坚持。看过很多书，唯有一本不相干的书《电影剧本写作基础》有讲到如何坚持，个人觉得非常中肯。这是一本由美国好莱坞一剧作人syd field撰写的书，里面第十二章有告诉我们，如何每天能够坚持坐下来写作。原话很长，简单讲。当你坐下来写作时，会遇到各种阻力，换到我们中国环境是，我们会想去吃吃东西，看看电视，上上网，出去逛逛，“这就是各种各样的阻力。在编造出各种理由和借口不去写作这方面，我们是大师。这是创作过程中的“障碍”。你怎样去对付它呢？很简单。你如果知道会发生这样的事，那在它发生时，承认它就罢了。当你擦拭冰箱，削铅笔或吃东西的时候，应该意识到你正在做什么。体验一下阻力！这不是什么大不了的事情。千万别泄气，别内疚，更不要自责。只要承认它们是阻力──你马上会掉过头去干正事。不要假装没有发生这样的事。它们确实发生了！一旦你对付了阻力，你就可以准备动笔写作了。实际上写作是一个协调的学习过程，你越写得多，它就变得越容易。（原话，摘自第十二章，写电影剧本）”以上内容只需把“写作”二字，改为“学英文”。意思就是讲，分心是肯定会发生的，当你分心的时候，不想学的时候，要意识到你在分心，要继续坚持学下去。就像最后一句所说，英文也是一个协调学习的过程，你越学，它就变得越容易。以上内容就是目前世界上克服惰性和让我们能每天坐下来坚持学英文最好的办法了。。
4) How to persist? I have read a lot of books. Yet only a book which is not connected with learning English entitled "Fundamental Move Script Writing" talked about how to persist. I found it very precisely to the point personally. It was a book written by Syd Field, a script writer in Hollywood. In Chapter 12, it says that if we can sit down persistently and write something everyday. The original wording is rather long. Simply said: "When you sit down to write, you will encounter different kinds of resistance." If we swap that in to the China environment, we will think of eating something or watching TV, going online for a while, or going for a walk. This is what we call the sort of resistance we will encounter. We are the great master when it comes to giving various reasons and excuses for not writing. This is the hurdle in the process of creating a movie story. How can you tackle that? Very simple. If you know what is going to happen, then when it happens, you just admit it. When you are cleaning the ice box, sharpening your pencils or eating something, you should know what you are doing. Experience the resistance! Those are not big deals. Never dispair. Don't feel guilty. Don't curse yourself. Only if you admit those are resistances, you turn round and do what you should be doing. Don't pretend ever that nothing has happened. Those things did happen. Once you have sorted out the resistance, you will be ready to pen your writing. In reality, writing is a coordinated learning process. The more you write, the easier it will become. (The original wordings, adopted from Chapter 12 - Writing the Movie Script) From the captured content, simply replace writing with "learning English". What we mean here is that drifting away from what you are doing is sure to occur. Whenever you know your mind is drifting away, and you don't like to learn anymore, you must understand that it is your mind drifting away. You have to persist and continue with your studies. Like the last sentence there, English is also a coordinated learning process. The more you study, the easier it will become. The content above is telling us the best method in the world to overcome tardiness and let us persist in learning English.
废话了很多，其实写这么多字最终就两个字，坚持。不好意思，以上内容你们又白看了。相信你能看到这里，也算是一个很有耐性能够坚持的人了。坚持再坚持，努力再努力，这也是美国精神。以前在美国教学多年的马来西亚老师曾跟我长谈，告诉我你不要老讲我们课程难，你要是在西方一些大学，你根本没机会这样说，你去说，人家只会讲，work harder.更加努力一些。
So much bullshitting. However much I write about, it can be summed up in two words: word hard, persist. You have wasted all your time reading the above. I believe if you can read all the way down to this part, you can be counted as one who is persistent enough. Persist and persist again. Work hard and work hard again. This is American spirit. A Malaysian teacher who taught in the States before told me that I should not just keep saying that the course is difficult. If you just happen to be in certain western universities, you simply don't have the chance to say so. If you say this, others will only tell you to work a bit harder.
所以废话这样多，英文学习其实也就是大家都懂的，努力跟坚持。
好意思，以上内容你们都白看了。
What about this load of bullshit so far?
Surely everybody knows what it is all about learning English.
希望您能够在英文学习上成功。
坚持，坚持，再坚持。
努力，努力，再努力。
I hope you will make it a success in learning English.
Persist, persist and persist again.
Work hard, work hard, work harder again.
[ 本帖最后由 unclemartin 于 2009-10-17 13:36 编辑 ]
不要总是整天用中文谈论学英语，否则你永远是在发梦！
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